the legal sanity mentor: spike jones
When it comes to the topic of (re)designing client-centric legal services, I’ve found a muse in Spike Jones. One of the visionaries at Brains on Fire, a company at the crossroads of identity development and word of mouth marketing, Spike helps organizations build movements.
Having drawn from his observations a bunch of times, I was delighted to have the chance to talk to Spike about his work and how it relates to the law. We opened the conversation by recognizing that we’re kindred spirits of sorts in that lawyers belong to the #1 most mistrusted profession while advertisers rank at #2.
AH: What’s the essence of your work at Brains on Fire?
SJ: We specialize in creating word of mouth movements by helping organizations roll up their sleeves and forge deep connections with their customers and employees.
AH: Can this work for modern-day law firms?
SJ: Well, I’ll use our company as an example of why it can. Marketing firms, even niche ones, are commodities. For each one, there are thousands of others doing the same thing. At Brains on Fire, we differentiate ourselves by trying really hard to make sure people know who we are and what we stand for. We got rid of time sheets, which are standard in our industry. This was huge. We try to embrace our kindred spirits by offering resources to a range of people - even those who won’t end up working with us; even our competitors. Differentiation happens when people come to you because you’re the thought leader who has new ideas and is trying new things.
AH: I can see this approach working for a smaller law firm. But, I wonder if it can work for bigger firms.
SJ: It can. Big companies like Microsoft are doing it. We call it opening the kimono. They’ve given hundreds, if not thousands, of their employees the freedom to blog on company time. In this way, they’re connecting with customers, each other and others in very authentic and meaningful ways. They’re letting people see Microsoft for the bumps and bruises it has, as well as the stuff it does really well. Southwest Airlines has a similarly open company culture. It starts on the inside, with this willingness to give individual employees their voice.
AH: This kind of transparency, this willingness to expose bumps, bruises and missteps, doesn’t seem to exist right now in the legal profession. Firms are very guarded and, at best, give their lawyers limited freedom to blog on the firm’s time.
SJ: This is huge. Companies are made up of people and people are fallible. When you go around saying “our company never messes up,” people see right through that and they can’t wait for you to mess up because then they can call you on it. So, if you say, “look, we don’t do this well, but the only way we can get better is with your help,” this is a refreshing entry into a conversation that goes on with or without you.
AH: I love that “we need your help.” It’s a wonderful way for law firms to engage their clients and employees. These are people who want to step up and be valuable and important.
SJ: Yes, and this plays into the point that there’s a need inside people to be part of something that’s bigger than they are. The firms who figure this out win. You’re no longer a law firm made up of lawyers, you’re a law firm made up of people. And people connect with people.
AH: Yes, that’s right. When you connect with other human beings in meaningful ways, you’re no longer a commodity. You’re a service provider in the true sense.
This was a very inspiring dialogue and I thank Spike for offering his insights on how law firms can engage clients and employees to ignite a movement.
Hey Arnie,
You managed to make me sound like I know what I'm talking about! Thanks so much for the interest, the interview and the kind words. You're rockin' the legal world, my friend. Keep it up.